Thom:  "(For this album) We are definitely having singles, videos, glossy magazine celebrity photo-shoots, children's television appearances, film premier appearances, dance routines and many interesting interviews about my tortured existe...

The band recorded Optimistic the day after laying the tracks down for this one, so maybe that's telling where it fits within the context of score? Also somehow it took a long time for Andrew to bring up Stanley, which is not what a good host sh...

Nico felt like this was very White Lotus-y, "I don't know, it was just cool. I feel like I certainly haven't processed it. It's confused me but drawn me in." Which is how Andrew feels about ACTUALLY being in the same city, hanging ou...

Ready to learn about Saddam Hussein and Christiane Amanpour? No? Well it DOES have information on where the title of the song came from. We also learn about the United Nations Special Commission and tunnels and more tunnels.

Thom: "More of an orgy of violence, politics, and not politics. I don't know man, that's what's going on inside my head and I won't lose sleep about it anymore because it obviously benefits the music, thank god."Nico: A lot to unpack th...