We detangle the backwards/forwards recording of the song, and also listen to what the song sounds like backwards, or forwards? We listen to them both ways. Our heads are spinning, at this point.

Nico: "At First was like, 'yeah you've got me' and now it's like, "well i don't know if you've kept me.' Like a distorted version of being in a meditation lounge". 

Nico loves the fact that this song appeared from a jam - "Usually it's like, 'they've spent 365 years underground measuring the antenna of a woodlouse'.. "

What are we teaching Nico in this episode? That music isn't that snake-y."Like adding in a Coda""What's anaconda?""Not anaconda, a coda, like an ending".

Nico finds some logic between AI and Knives out, and he kinda has an interesting point.